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They committed that they don't want to get caught doing. >> it's got to be the latter and not the former, chris. our common sense tells us that. but, you know, we're all kind of puzzling a little bit over -- well, is this all that michael flynn is going to face? i would suggest this is probably all he's going to face by way of being charged with crimes. but it would not at all surprise me if, when bob mueller drops what i think we all sense is going to be a large overarching conspiracy indictment, you know, michael flynn may very well be one of the unindicted coconspirators who's in there for ...

They don't owe the court detail other than fact they've promised to detail crimes and lies in there. i imagine that could also be heavily redacted. >> i want you all to stick around, and i'm going to bring in congressman ted lou. i don't know if you've seen this document. but i want to talk about this. this is a document that is a cooperating witness, someone who has met 19 times and given truthful information according to the special counsel's office. there are other people who are not cooperating, roger stone is one of them. roger stone today pleading the fifth kind of out of nowhere in resp...

>> combat leader, this is his personality is to do it by the book, as you would expect. >> although we should note, today was the flynn sentencing memo. and there was no -- there was no promise or tipoff from them about what would be in it. other than parts of it would be public. they did a rare on the record statement from the spokesperson for that office. friday's filing, which is about paul manafort, they have said we will lay out the lies and crimes of paul manafort in that document. what do we make -- given what we have here and the redactions we have here and the sort of keeping things i...

But if there's one thing we've all learned, robert mueller takes the process crimes seriously and sending a message other people should too, with good reason. when people lie, it delays an investigation. anyone complaining about the length of this investigation should look no further than the lies that are at the heart of it. and also when you're talking about national security officials and dealing with foreign adversaries, the lies are incredibly consequential. because not only are you facing potential criminal prosecution for lying, but then you also put yourself that compromise situation, ...

Revealed additional evidence of crimes that they have followed up on. >> ben wittis, if i saw this document and i was a business associate of michael flynn working on the saudi nuclear deal or anything like that, i think i would be a little unnerved by that redaction. >> yeah, i think if you -- if you're anybody who has exposure, had involvement with michael flynn on matters that you have the slightest question about whether they were legal, you have to consider some possibility that the special council has just sid in a sentencing memo with respect to you. and that's a possibility. >> if you'...