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They've got to contain it, make sure he doesn't use the thunderstorm and the dark of night to elude the circle that surrounds him. be patient, wait him out, use the girlfriend, if that is what it takes, try to get him down. get him to back off. right now, he's got that finger on the hair trigger and is plugging away at anyone. and now, you can have thunder, you are not going to know if it's thunder or gunfire. it's a mess in philly, but patience. they've got the perimeter secure. patience is what these cops need. and i'm sure the chief is advising exactly that. >> sean: pat, let me go to you. ...

Great s.w.a.t. team, philadelphia pd there. that got to contain it, make sure he doesn't use the thunderstorm and the dark of night to elude the circle that surrounds him. be patient, wait him out, use the girlfriend if that is what it takes, try to get him down. get him to back off. right now, he's got that finger on the hair trigger and is plugging away at anyone. and now you can have thunder, you are not going to know if it's thunder or gunfire. it's a mess in philly, but patients. they've got the perimeter secure. patient is what these cops need need. i'm sure the chief is advising exactly...