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Is this more of an issue for russia when it comes to morale and reputation, if you will? or is it more about russia's strategy in this invasion? >> no, it's more morale. the propaganda used from ukraine's side is tremendous and he's got messaging problems, putin does, as it faces off to russia with this. i think it's going to have little impact. frankly he has the baltic fleet -- or black sea fleet. a tremendous amount of military capability there. it will degrade somewhat but the embarrassment of losing that ship is tremendous. and he has to watch out for what message gets sent to russia as o...

When the cdc announced they were shortening the isolation period from 10 to 5 days. some confusion ensued in the days after. they eventually released more guidance relating a little bit to testing. but it's coming at a time when americans lack for clarity how to live with this virus. now, the -- it's not just the messaging problems that are coming under scrutiny. there are some scientists within the cdc, cnn has learned, who are also frustrated with how the guidance have come together, as walensky has been consulting just a small group of advisers to release this guidance. but in addition to t...

Himself and even president biden has said -- now president biden is experiencing that. we've heard for weeks they know the problems and they diagnosed it, we have messaging problems, but we haven't seen a full fledged fix yet. what's interesting about bringing in president obama to talk to democrats is that seems to be part of it and they probably have time to get there but not much. >> fantastic panel. so glad to you have you person. stick around. be sure to tune in to the president's full interview this sunday airing before the super bowl and it's only on nbc. still to come, president biden ...

You're hurting yourself in the general and that's almost like the most honest thing we've heard any member of congress say in a long time, but joe biden is helping republicans like that because in the messaging in his speech, he is doing a reset. as you mentioned, he talked about a blue collar blueprint and he talked about the idea that this is a confusing time. he talked how trickle down has not worked and he advocated for the idea of trickle up and he took on, head-on the joe manchin idea that this is a center right country, and a lot of democrats' messaging problems has revolved around the ...

>> yeah. >> their stubbornness has to be their own consequence at some point and the rest of us have to be able to live life. >> yeah. >> now, i see a repeat of messaging problems that we had with the vaccine with the booster. somebody allowed joe biden to go out and set a schedule before they had all their ducks in a row. >> yeah. >> now, they're going to debate whether or not there is a booster. which set of data? how do they look? we have discussed this, before. scientists make lousy messengers because we're used to people in politics holding onto a position no matter what the facts are. th...