himself and even president biden has said -- now president biden is experiencing that. we've heard for weeks they know the problems and they diagnosed it, we have messaging problems, but we haven't seen a full fledged fix yet. what's interesting about bringing in president obama to talk to democrats is that seems to be part of it and they probably have time to get there but not much. >> fantastic panel. so glad to you have you person. stick around. be sure to tune in to the president's full interview this sunday airing before the super bowl and it's only on nbc. still to come, president biden holds a virtual meeting with foreign allies as russia conducts military drips of size and scope not seen since the cold war. we're on the ground in ukraine