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Know with james comey? >> both were in the bureau, essentially overlapped successively in that job. >> actually now as i think of it, during the bush administration, bob muller was threatening to resign over a warrantless wiretapping. and i think that at the time -- >> they were in it together. >> that's right. >> they're close. they should be close. >> that's right. it was the ash croft bedside, renew the metta data, comey had one story, muller had one story, they conferred at the hospital. they know each other in a similar situation to this in a sense. >> peter baker of the "the new york tim...

Through edward snowden, we had this big con ver sigs about metta data. the information in your phone call, who you call, what number, how often, what your number is is and how long you talk. now, that, law enforcement by and large has said does not need a warrant, although that's coming into question. this is the third question raised by technology is where you are physically. it's called geo location. the fact that when you carry a cell phone, you're connecting to cell towers and that allows people to know where you are physically on the earth and therefore, law enforcement looking for bad fw...

In good standing. >> he's an outsider. he's a republican ralph nader. the gap between rand paul and dick cheney or the gap between rand paul and mitch mcconnell, the one senator who's endorsed them, is bigger than the gap between any two figures in the democratic party. big hear then the gap between bernie sanders and hillary clinton probably. >> oh for sure. i will say the problem with rand paul is he's not consistent. he talks about drones and then sort of makes an exception for drones used in criminal domestic cases. or with this even today or yesterday i believe, he said he would -- instea...

The minimum. the header information, the metta data, the data around the data, exists somewhere. i don't know why he said what he said. but it's definitely he is misinformed because the hard drive is irrelevant. it's a red herring. it's the network storage. it's the email server. i want to talk to the exchange server. the person who administers that i also want to talk to lois lerner's admin because she had access to lois lerner's account. >> how easy would it be. if people would cooperate, how easy would it be to get this information. >> if people would cooperate it would be tough it but you ...

Nasa is vacuuming up all kinds of metta data about telephone calls made to and from the united states, but said after the september 11 attacks we learn that al qaeda is using technology, and he says the bulky metadata program represents the government's counterpunch, connecting fragmented and fleeting communication to reconstruct and ealmost nate al qaeda's terror network. the justice department said they are pleased with the day's ruling and the chairman of the house homeland subexciteey said it preserves a vital weapon for the united states in the war against international terrorism. hope th...