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On the other side of the fence before customs and border protection is able to pick them up and process them. by law, customs and border protection should be doing it immediately. the problem is they are just as overwhelmed as everybody. >> leading off our discussion now is former democratic senator heidi hide camp and joining us joy reed and host of "a.m. joy" and nbc news correspondent cal perry is joining us from the southern border tonight and senator hyde cam senator hide camp, you were working when it was unimaginable 12 republicans would stand up and vote against this president of the u...

Doubt about that. i think the politically expedient vote was a yes vote. >> why not? >> because this isn't about politics. >> part of the plan to keep hide camp's seat is about the uncertainty over tariffs promoted by the white house. how big was a risk was the move? >> i think it was a potential political risk. it highlights what a difficult place this senate is either moderate republicans or democrats. what you see are the people closer to the center speaking the way that senator hide camp spoke but voting in toe and her using her experience as a past attorney general speaking to women who h...

As somebody said, denying a quorum woks for a while. it's hard to see anybody sustaining that. frankly, i think it would be harder on people like hide camp and mansion to deny a quorum. denying the quorum, you get in the hit for tat of mayor garland. >> it's hard to imagine democrats sustaining that for very long. they tried this previously. >> i played this sound for you in the last hour, katokaton, i to play it again. this is leonard leo who made the list for the supreme court picks: this was him denying that roe was a litmus test it get on the list. >> is it fair to say that anyone who made...

>> announcer: end game brought to you by boeing, continuing our mission to connect, protect, b. continuing our mission to connect, protect, explore, and inspire. >> back now with end game, we're actually going to stick to the politics of this. stephanie, i want you -- i'm going to hit you here with the democratic base that in some ways it's 2020 politics that is drawing the line in the sand here about -- on daca. some of your former colleagues have a popular podcast called pod save america. john favro, all former white house folks. they were doing whip counts. it was those between fight club a...