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But eventually msnbc's kasie hunt got kevin mccarthy to in effect admit that the president was at least wrong when he says that every member of congress has already violated that law or would violate that law. >> if somebody a foreign adversary called you and said i have information on your opponent would you call the fbi. >> i would send it to the authorities yes. >> in a private meeting during the last presidential campaign, kevin mccarthy was reported to have said that he believed then at that time that vladimir putin during the campaign was paying donald trump. today, nancy pelosi highligh...

>> not every question in the debates will be about governing policy. there will be questions about impeachment and things like that, which are not about what you would do as president. if you can have a moment in the debate to highlight one, one governing policy that you want to lead and you want to advance as president of the united states, what would that be? would it be in taxation? would it be in climate? where would it be? would it be health care? >> if i could pick two, climate and taxation and health care. on taxation, since you ran the finance committee once. >> you're a member of the ...

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President's unethical behavior that they think that they are honoring their oath of office? and i believe these are all connected. >> leading off our discussion tonight democratic congressman dan kildee of michigan, a member of the house ways and means committee and evan mcmullin, former cia operative and former congressional staffer. congressman killedee, first of all your reactions to what the president said last night and what the fec chair said tonight about that is a clear violation of law. >> well, what the president said, lawrence, was absolutely chilling. at a moment when i thought he ...

He knows the final jury is actually the senate and it's the senators, republican senators who are keeping his illegal behavior happening. >> neera tanden gets the last word on this segment. ron klain, thank you both. really appreciate it. >> when we come back, the office in charge of enforcing the hatch act told president trump today that kellyanne conway is a repeat offender. that was their word, repeat offender and should be fired. we'll show you the reporting from this program that was quoted in that report to the president. and also tonight, we will be joined by presidential candidate sena...