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Economic growth is happening because of progrowth, in part because of progrowth policies. what happens if you take that away on tariffs? he's attacking a problem we don't need to worry about. we by 500 million and from them, they buy from us. let's focus on more selling to them. >> michael, are you as negative on the idea of tariffs? what impact did it conceivably have the? >> large tariffs are the way to go. i agree with what larry kudlow said. i don't think we will have a trade war. i think the strongest at the present has going for him is he's always been looking out for american interests....

It's not as if we haven't done anything for border security. the caravan has been coming up as an easter ritual for the last 5+ years. i think what you have is an attempt to trigger fear and hysteria over there's a horde coming over the southern border and the going to invade america.i think it's all about this president trying to say to his base, i am putting a wall up. if i'm not putting a wall, i will put soldier who by the way, have no authority to detain, arrest, no bullets and their guns. it's a joke. >>chris: i can see both michael and carl ready to come out of their seats. >> i want to...

The islamic state. what we've done is we've ever created an environment where he goes underground it it's not consolidating land. but continues to engage in terrorist behavior and activity. >>chris: would you agree that president obama is much more responsible for the disaster and the humanitarian slaughter if you get them president trump is? >> when i was in congress, i called on the president. president obama and supported the idea we should be on the side of the syrian people were facing exactly the same kinds of atrocities. it's come to this point but the fact is today, and a full 2018, pr...

Michael needham. there's no question we have a problem with chinese trade practices but is it the best solution to threaten them with tariffs? >> i don't think so. we have two problems. biggest problem is they are stealing our intellectual property. we miss the fact that on march 23, the administration filed what it should have done which is an action with the wto challenging from top to bottom on their intellectual property rights. that's where we can win big for the american companies and consumer and the concept of free trade. but tariffs, really problematic. presidents ever going to let th...

Hour again. michael needham in heritage action for america. an andy walter and eli lake. we had a different topic prepared but this is the topic of the hour. michael? >> it's interesting. it's been talked about as happening for many, many months. it was still surprising when it happened. gary cohn has been part of a fantastic team and tremendous accomplishments like the tax cuts. and rolling back dowd frank. gary cohn has been there at the president's side with a remarkable record. it's important for the president not to roll that back with tarrifs or other policies in