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His cell phone or his satellite phone and his laptops, they're changing passwords, they're going to ground. >> i think that's correct, steve. but i don't want to down play the information. a computer at a level of this guy is very important information. >> because he is the -- he controlled the treasury of the taliban. he's got the dough and knows who all the players are. you know what? if anybody is going to know from the taliban, michael, where osama bin laden is, it would be safe to say it would be this guy, right? >> he and mullah omar, certainly, that circle would be the people that would...

Everyday people. so when we stay true to those principles, we're on much steadier ground particularly when you anchor that with the constitution and the rights that are given to the people of the country under the constitution. >> i'm sure the tea party people were delighted to hear you say you're the part of conservativism. that's how they feel that the r.n.c. has drifted, so before you go today, michael, happy anniversary, the government doled out at least $787 billion in stimulus money last year. the official reaction one year later from the republican party is -- >> oh, so much joy out the...

Meanwhile, a secret joint u.s.-pakistan raid has captured the taliban's number two leader and military commander as well. mullah baradar is the most significant taliban figure ever taken down. so the big question is are we getting closer to other high ranking taliban and the ultimate osama bin laden of al-qaida? we're joined by the former head of the c.i.a.'s bin laden unit, michael, thanks for joining us today from d.c. >> yes, sir. thank you. >> what's the information right now? what is this guy telling his interrogators? >> i think he's just suggesting to them at the moment he has informati...

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