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Tonight. you had a response david. >> that's it in a nutshell there. this guy had any sort of connection and wasn't so opaque and secretive, i think a lot would say we gave barack obama a chance, ill give this guy a chance. but he's too far removed and secretive about too many aspects of his life and campaign. and then you throw it we didn't talk about the flip-flops and everything else. it's just a very hard sell at this point in time. >> michelle, you wanted to add something? >> i mean, again, it just all comes back to if he seemed comfortable with his story that he was telling, he could be ...

Funding as to who his bundlers are. and he won't explain his policies like the tax policy issue that came up with most of the tax cuts that he's proposed going to benefit the wealthy. so not only is he awkward and uncomfortable as person as a candidate, there's a lot out there that we still don't know about him that all points in the wrong direction. >> now, i think, michelle, that's what compounds the problem. when you look at the fact that we don't know how many foreign bank accounts he has, his record as a job creator at bain that he told us to look at his record as bain to find that he is ...

Wasn't so scary. maybe the joke is really on us. joining me now is michelle cato, washington reporter for the daily beast and "news week." and david corn for mother jones, an msnbc political analyst and also the author of "showdown." first of all, thanks both of you for your time tonight. >> sure thing. >> it's our pleasure. >> david, let me start with you. we're having some fun there with rafalca, but the point here is very serious. mitt romney for this time in history, i mean, what are we looking at here? >> well, first i have to say those were the most six gripping minutes of olympic sport ...

And how to have tax savings offshore. not for tax benefit, just for the heck of it. but i think your summation this evening, reverend, sort of puts into light all the stuff it's creating an impression about mitt romney. if you look at the latest polls, once again we see the public is a bit disappointed or concerned with president barack obama's performance on the economy. we'd like the economy to be doing better and him having more results. when they turn to mitt romney, they see someone who doesn't seem to care as much for their concerns as the president. and they still think of him in terms ...