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Kate mention? >> i think the simple answer to that, paul is no he should not bring donald trump in. it is interesting, so far trump is kinda stayed out of this race. we'll see in the final. but the irony is that if anyone is going to save herschel walker it is governor brian camp who donald trump attacked. but brian camp really seems to gain here. pete stacey abrams by a substantial margin. in governor cap is reportedly atlantic's get out to vote machine to herschel walker. this is a sophisticated hated turnout machine using data analytics, micro- targeting a door to door knocking that's why h...

Fighting for them. there is more going on here than i think we can know. things that are happening that are weird, for instance when people go knock on doors you don't know what was on that person's phone a few minutes ago. micro targeting going on, social media stuff going on. not just the big ads. we talk about the ads, politicians, big speeches. that is not where people are living. people aren't even watching tv. >> we hope so. >> they're not watching tv the way they used to. there is stuff going on that's moving and i just don't want to depress any turn out here. i think there is a real fi...

Ground that are saying they're coming from this area, that area. and i think what the democrats are doing is smart. they're bringing out the big guns to bring out micro targeting. >> and, david, to win control of the senate, the republicans need of course 51 seats, which comes down to about half a dozen key states, right? we're going to put those up there. you mentioned pennsylvania's on that list, north carolina, georgia, they're all there, arizona. they have to hold all of the current seats in red on this map, and they need to peel off one more, one more from democrats. doesn't have to be on...

In the senate. >> uh-huh. >> she made history. is that hard? >> i wouldn't say so because i think a lot of these people feel left behind. they feel that they have maybe a latina representing them and they're latinos and not getting better outcomes. all these hispanic voters saying she may be hispanic but she's leaving us behind. >> reporters still at the table including dana bash. interesting. republicans see this, some building in 2020, they think in 2020 they can grow even more, build back their support with latino voters. that would be a huge flip. >> huge and this is a program called vamos...

But it was optimised to make more money for surveillance capitalism, in the process sacrificing fact and using micro—targeting. and this is what happened. countries began coming in using it for information warfare. but the way the way you talk, it makes me feel almost that you regard the greater long term threat to independent journalism, to free flows of information, to come from big tech and the way it operates, rather than from individual authoritarian rulers, whether it be duterte or indeed putin. in my priorities, putin and duterte have used the tech to exponentially increase the demise...