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Voting. jefferson county has voted differently. it's true in every state. i think one thing doug jones has to worry about, though, we talked about historic african-american turnout. the idea you have to get obama if 2008 and 12 levels of african-american turnout. that's a pipe degree you 45d historic people and they voted for a democrat. he still lost by 22 points, barack obama t. idea that that turnout will be at that level and win him the race i think is unrealistic. >> i think we're looking at the other side of the coin, mika. >> mm-hmm. >> it may not be who goes out and votes who stays hom...

Seem like an earthquake and a giant blow to donald trump. a giant blow to him. >> so i heard this yesterday, so it must have been true that doug jones could do 25 points better than hillary clinton did here and still lose. >> yeah. >> so he starts in such a deep, deep hole. >> which is why with he wins it will be an earthquake. >> donald trump has always said and said this to mika and me when we were talking, he loved alabama because he said i'm more popular there than anywhere else and yet you got by luther strange and he's gotten by roy moore. if he becomes the first republican in ages to lo...

Massachusetts said, enough, we're voting for a republican this time. >> to that point i was chairman telt. i got a phone call from the chairman in massachusetts, spent two days on the ground, came back to washington, saying we're putting a half a million in this race for that very reason t. dynamics on the ground went against the conventional politics. in other words the people were of a mind to stay home in many cases. they weren't as excited about coakley t. national media about that campaign, they're weren't feeling that. it worked out for scott in the direction. so you can play to union's ...

Terms of business and race registrations and to have roy moore win would set them back so far in their perception. it would give up to a caricature of the state that they feel like they've outlived. >> unfortunately, it's a caricature, mika, that roy moore's own statements, again, that have nothing to do with the allegations but roy moore's own statements in the past actually seem to play to the worst in. >> allegations, look at them based on this. controversial statement roy moore has made over the years. his contention that muslims should not sit in congress. his notion that families were mo...

You go into central alabama -- >> yep. >> and then make fun of me for not being able to go to smart yankee schools like harvard and georgetown. >> where did you go to school? >> university of alabama. university of alabama. so that was sort of a misplay. i mean, because, you know, as i've always said -- >> have a cup of coffee. >> can i tell them the alabama joke i tell all over the place? >> go for it. >> i'm going to turn my back on the camera. so in every speech that mika has heard me give over the past, like, six, seven years, she always, she's like when are you going to tell the alabama j...