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And turning over iraq to iran, which is essentially what has happened here. do you think that was worth it, sir? i would have loved to have heard the answer to that, because that's the right question, not, you know, was it right or wrong. are you sorry you did it? he's never sorry about anything. but the question is, does he understand what the real consequences were and can he respond to them? >> i think timing is a lot to this thing. i think he sees the foreign policy -- i mean, the whole world is coming apart. isis grabbing the land in iraq and syria. everything is coming apart going back t...

Lives the way he does. >> he's not the only one. over in new jersey, a bishop with a huge estate adding on to it. you have the pope preaching the gospel of the church tending to the poor, those less fortunate. >> not a great idea. this next story, mike, you obviously -- >> oh, yeah. >> i mean, this also relates to you because little known fact, you were actually the agent that discovered mickey rooney back in early 1920s. the los angeles times reporting that actor mickey rooney died sunday in california. he started on stage as a toddler. that's when mike first met him. his career continued for...

Kerry and foreign minister zarif will be a change, a big deal. it hasn't happened at that level. he said he was willing to take serious steps to build confidence. i pressed him on the issue of confidence. there's no confidence in what iran says it's doing with its nuclear program on the issue of full transparency. we went through the kind of framework that he might see, obviously they want sanctions lifted and all of that. he was very forthcoming on the issue of tweeting where iranians don't have access to social media. he says he wants to make sure they did have it. on human rights he wants t...

>> and i want to play more of that. mike first, do you buy that explanation about the meeting? you never thought the meeting was wise between obama and rouhani? >> no, i don't buy the explanation. clearly the supreme leader has given rouhani some rope to play. and we need to investigate how far he can play. but i think we see already there are limits. this morning in the kahan newspaper, official mouth piece of the regime, it was said that rouhani should not shake the president's hand and he didn't do it. i think it's also a bit of a power game. they sense we're running after them and are goin...

Negotiate with me in an interview. i pushed him on 20% enrichment capacity. he wouldn't bite on that. he wouldn't bite on the bordeaux plan, the underground plan that everybody talked about which has the more advanced centrifuges. i did find interesting he did seem to indicate that there is another issue we all know about, the heavy water reactor called iraq at iraq. many people are worried that that could be used for plutonium extraction. that's another way fit was so despaired to go towards a weapon. that may be coming online. or was designed to come online in the spring. he indicated that t...