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that enough would vote yes, but are they sure? >> house democrats are going to make sure that the country does not default. period. full stop. >> this caucus will remain unified with the president and most importantly with the american people in this fight. >> house democrats stand poised to help, stand poised to be the adults in the room, and we will ensure that we put this crisis behind us. >> we have two house lawmakers starting us off today. a republican in mccarthy's inner circle and a democrat who voted no on the deal in the rules committee last night, and that right there is w...

release of a second round of hostages is now back on this hour. an hour and a half ago, we didn't know if it was. this, after the previously said the release would be delayed over accusations that israel broke parts of the agreement. now, what we're also watching this hour are these two pieces of video. live streams, one from the rafah border crossing, if the deal is back on, then, we do expect that there will be hostages released, coming through the rafah border crossing. that is one part of what we're watching. on the right, side we are watching the microphones, we expect a briefin...

So they could extort benefits that they would never be able to get through regular order. what it says to me is that we need to move as quickly as possible to eliminate the debt ceiling as a bargaining point. we are one of only two countries in the world. denmark being the other one that has a debt ceiling like this that can be used as a hostage taking exercise, so it's reinforced for me the importance that we eliminate this as a hostage taking point as soon as possible. >> how do you want to eliminate it? is it by passing a bill that makes the debt deal negotiation infinity plus years from no...

Million, you look at the men's world cup, which is slated for around the $400 million mark. that kind of speaks volumes, i think. >> i wonder if there is anything to a potential argument of making that the case. if there's that push, then why not retroactively. this already is astounding. half of the tournaments played and half they have won as champions, times four. so i think there will be another argument of why wait. what more does there need to be proven. >> it is a really, really strong bargaining point. that's what i said earlier, striking while the iron is hot. four times champions of ...

No doubt. >> mieke, that's the assumption of previous presidents going back to bill clinton and certainly w. the assumption that the north koreans are rational in terms of cost benefit. that if their nuclear program was costing them to be isolated from the world, to be impoverished forever, they would choose against it. but they haven't been that way. they haven't been logical that way. just like lbj thought he could buy the north vietnamese with a big economic -- like the tva, the tennessee valley authority. people are nationalistic. they have their own purposes. is north korea interested in ...