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Including making false statements and declarations. and what we have already seen out in public, open source reporting that the president's russia lawyers went privately to two crucial figures in the ongoing investigation, mike nine and paul manafort, and talked with their lawyers about potentially receiving pardons from the president. this at a time when both men were already cooperating with or considering cooperating with federal prosecutors in their investigation of the president. just today, in an interview, the president publicly floated the idea of a pardon for his campaign chairman pau...

I think it's essential. and i think the big key to understand is, he's been out for three years. i don't know why the number was set at seven pack in the day whenever this was, early 1900s. but he's been out for three years. he's in a civilian capacity. it's not like we're taking somebody right out of uniform service and installing them. so that will be a debate the senate is going to have. i think ultimately it will come out favorably. >> if he is named defense secretary, you have a retired general in the department of defense, you have retired general mike nine as national security adviser, ...