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Part of exe we decision their forces which is not traditionally the use of a national guard. and so this is new hampshire saying we don't trust how the federal government's going to use our troops, so we're willing to commit them when the american people through their elected branch in congress commits those troops to a foreign war. then you can. i i love this idea. and i, i'm sure the national guard bureau is, oh, no. i love states exerting their influence through a system of federalism and the idea of protecting the prerogative the of why are we sending some young guy from new hampshire to t...

To alleys and partners about the fact this was not a civilian air ship. it was very clearly a spy balloon sent here to collect intelligence. >> trace: a spy balloon sent here to collect intelligence and that's not what we've been told, dave. what do you make of that statement? >> yeah, i think they're finally telling at least what seems blatantly obvious and the truth that this was a spy balloon sent here to collect intelligence on the united states, on the military facilities. if it was able to, it could collect intelligence. more importantly, it was there to test what our reactions would be....

Control, which was not uncommon issue with trump administration. whether it was by tweet and sitting and knowing you need to respond to inquiries like i did on my first day helsinki and press inquiries, what is going on? that was the drill i was going through. almost like a battle drill you see in the military react to some sort of contact and the president being the adversary in this case based on just completely going off the rails. >> thinking of the president as an adversary, that's something. you consulted with your brother who is also on the national security council. you describe situat...

Going all the way to the international criminal court in the us is out of the demand that enough or not. the burning question is how will the venezuelan military react until now the generals have stood firmly behind nicolas maduro. paths remain there you're going on the one he met with the armed forces are a pandora's box that hasn't yet been opened. the water coconuts. in the state of touch era which borders colombia long lines form at gas stations it's a paradox venezuela possesses the world's largest proven oil reserves and yet its refineries are dilapidated run by the military with no expe...

>> yes. the importance of today's event cannot be understated. it is history playing in front of our eyes. the united states waged huge influence here in terms of commercial influence. a lot of oil trade going on president trump throwing behind that's definitely a historical moment. >> he declared himself president. what needs to happen for maduro to leave? reserving the right to use military force if need be. he said that in the past. >> yes. but what afternoon is looking at right now is how will the military react?