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>> it tells you that it's exactly what it is on its face, it was a cold-hearted murder of a guy they didn't like. >> correct. >> if you say -- >> done in a stupid, clumsy way. >> my relationship with the prince matters too much, we're not going to leverage everything for one person. what message does that send to heavies all over the world? >> i don't know that it sends any message to heavies all over the world. we deal with different -- >> just killed a guy who's a journalist, not going to do anything about it, sanctioned people who are already in jail. >> depends on the heavy, depends on the...

People -- >> i find it's really interesting that it's getting suppressed. when the main cornerstone of your candidacy was -- >> american people don't like it, chris. >> well, they loved hillary's e-mails. and that was total b.s. and you know it. he pushed -- >> a totally different situation. >> it is not totally different. >> i don't want to pick on secretary clinton and go over those facts. where the e-mail server was and who had access to the server. i don't want to -- >> she used her own domain also, ivanka. it wasn't at gmail. it was her own domain. that means it's her own server. >> first...

>> you got these disloyal very -- >> maybe they are loyal but to the country. >> operative sort of guys. >> maybe they're loyal to the country. >> i wholly and totally disagree with that, chris. i said that to you in my short stint at the white house. i said it to jake tapper. the notion that these people need to protect the country from the president is a bunch of knopp sense. >> oh, really? look at the story today about don mcgahn. he went to don mcgahn, said i want to go after clinton and comey, make it happen. >> i have the 11-day ph.d. on the nefarious activity. >> milk it. >> okay. let's...

Thanks. look where we are, look what we escaped. the pill grams was about those early americans seeing the problem of what they were building. some perspective, some promise. but still it was a one off. colonies and states did their own thing. then came abraham lincoln. in the middle of the civil war, lincoln called for a day of thanks during one the ugliest periods of the civil war. he decided to remedy position by ignoring it in favor of the greater goals and common aspiration of all of those fighting. he called them americans. he said we should all pause and give thanks for the better days ...

That's a great point that you make because it sheds light on something else that used to be clouded in mystery. would the president really ever go to mcgahn and say i want comey out, i want to go get rid of somebody? did mcgahn really have to say to him, calm down, don't do this, i won't do this? remember, the white house and the surrogates all said that never happened. this story makes that story a lot more likely. this is the kind of memo you wrote, just as you said, you've written them before. >> there are other stories about him having voiced things he'd like to do involving foreign relati...