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These troops have had to succeed thousands and thousands of times vetting people, bringing them through and checking them. so when we think about what barbara was talking about a mina go, what we're really talking about there is this notion of saying, how do you reach out and instead of having all the protection be here, how do you work with the taliban or other -- whatever you call the authority there now, to somehow push it out further? how do you shutdown some of these other entrance ways that possibly form a threat there while you still try to maintain some kind of trickle of people throug...

Considering how things operate. i think that's a great question, jim. i think it goes back to exactly what the general was talking about a mina go. somehow they have to get a little bit of separation here because that's what will allow them to sort of control that flow better, instead of being right up on top of people. they're still going to have to do this at some point. the direct contact with anybody who is still going to get through there. but if they can keep that separation and keep them back a little bit, then maybe they can keep vehicle attacks away. maybe they have a better chance to...

Mina go, it was nexpected. we had seen indicators of this since the trump presidency began. what i'd like to point out is general milley as the joint chiefs of staff doesn't command any forces. his primary job by congressional and legal mandate is to provide advice to the president and the secretary of defense and to testify before congress in terms of the state of the military. so he was very adamant like all general officers are about supporting the civilian military relations. he's also taken a vow to defend the constitution. that is part of our oath. and i think, you know, he was caught in...