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That because he now has national vice presidential aspirations. it might just be that the chairman of the republican party is not that good at his job, but if you give him the benefit of the doubt, the chairman said something that's mind bending. it's totally untrue. it is interesting that he feels like he has to tell this particular lie. >> do you believe that gays and lesbians in america deserve equal rights? >> i think they deserve equal rights in regards to discrimination in the workplace. issues such as mitt romney has pointed out numerous time t hospital visitations. i think for the sake...

It might just be that the chairman of the republican party is not that good at his job, but if you give him the benefit of the doubt, the chairman said something that's mind bending. it's totally untrue. it is interesting that he feels like he has to tell this particular lie. >> do you believe that gays and lesbians in america deserve equal rights? >> i think they deserve equal rights in regards to discrimination in the workplace. issues such as mitt romney has pointed out numerous time t hospital visitations. i think for the sake of dignity and respect, sure. >> aww. except that's not your po...

It is amazing to see it. it's politically interesting that he feels like he has to say that because he now has national vice presidential aspirations. it might just be that the chairman of the republican party is not that good at his job, but if you give him the benefit of the doubt, the chairman said something that's mind bending. it's totally untrue. it is interesting that he feels like he has to tell this particular lie. >> do you believe that gays and lesbians in america deserve equal rights? >> i think they deserve equal rights in regards to discrimination in the workplace. issues such as...

Equally dramatic in chicago, newt gingrich over obama in ohio in a head-to-head match-up 43%, 42%, that's a heart attack. >> that is mind bending. >> i mean, against newt gingrich. >> that is mind bending. >> in ohio. >> of course, obama beats obama in ohio too. that's not as much of a shock. but a flame thrower like newt gingrich with the train wreck that has been his political career and his personal life, mike barnicle, this is clearly a statement from the american people that has less to do with newt gingrich than it does with the state of american politics. >> correct. i agree with you. i...

Preliminary findings on it. it is mind bending. when the right freaks out now, the right spends lots and lots and lots and unimaginably lots of money in order to get their way. joining us right now is eugene robinson, columnist for the "washington post." thanks for being here. >> it's great to be here, rachel. >> the republicans decided to hold their vote for the paul ryan budget right before they went back home to their districts. did they think they would be greeted with a standing ovation? or did they know it would be more like this? >> maybe they envisioned rose petals being strewn in thei...