BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 00:45:00
We are not dehumanising anyone. i think it's the contrary. i think on the contrary. i mean, i said that several times before the election, of course i support the progressive government, but i would already be very happy if we have a normal government. the cardoso government was a normal government, the sarney government was a normal government. so bolsonaro was, for me, a point totally out of the of the normal curve, so to say. but there was a lot of manipulation. there was the use of state money, there was the use of government money during the election. he did totally... i mean, not to spea...