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Million budget. so that goes with the territory. and i think that that campiness has endeared it to people. as far as getting in the mind space it is really just like any other movie, where any other movie would stop and say wait, this is unbelievable, we just get to keep going. >> how do you get to keep going? how do you up the ante? you were saying the first is more than anyone could actually believe was possible making in this movie. what do you do with the third to keep people coming back. >> you go bigger and better. three times the shark, three times the nados and a 100% more hoff. we've...

Television? >> you would believe it. and i haven't told you this, i don't think, ever. but until i really got to know you i used to think the voice on the outside of your head was an [ bleep ]. >> just for watching that television or watching me around the office? >> well, you know, you got to abc before i did. >> yes. >> and i had no idea what a gladiator tool it was in terms of hyper-competitive -- >> not like the pillow talk of cnn. >> but you got to covering wars. >> covering wars after 9/11. >> and it takes a special breed of cat not only to want to crave the spotlight but to go to wars a...

Romney. beyond all of the things that are -- enormative sense that are wrong about this statement it's political suicide. >> the political dog ma of republicans is to say they're not that group of people and there's somebody lower than you if and if you don't hate those people, the karl rove anger points, you got to hate those people because you're a little higher up than them. >> if you go to the rallies in toledo, go toes these rallies in a lot of these battleground states and all over ohio and western pennsylvania, scranton, you find people, including obama supporters, articulating that ver...