Third, biden ought to say if putin is going to engage in a policy of killing civilians, then we are going to give surface-to-surface missiles and cruise missiles to ukraine. when somebody starts killing your women, your children, destroying your cultural heritage, you have a right to defend yourself by taking out their airfields and their missiles. >> steve: that's such a good idea. nobody is really talking about that. but the point before that where he talked about whether or not the ukrainians have any munitions to take out the ships. right now the shelling of mariupol is occurring because t...