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Corrupt government officials have put out private data illegally. we saw that the irs hearing last week, did we not? the pro-traditional marriage organization that testified had data leaked to its enemies allegedly by an irs official. big problem. and that leaker must be arrested and charged soon. so it is obvious that if the government is gathering communications, information from americans, that information could be illegally used. now, the phone calls it's not much of a problem because the government isn't taping the calls, it's just chronically time and place. in the name of national secur...

Dragnetting all this information. >> bill: where are you getting that from though. >> part of the problem this is all secret so we cannot -- karl probably can't tell us if he knows. >> bill: we don't know the whistleblower in hong kong says that's happening and rove says it isn't happening. we don't know. >> at least the phone stuff is not very targeted and is domestic. i have an issue with that a little bit beyond what you do. >> bill: no, no. >> hold 00 not just because there is distongues you can do a lot with data now than you could bill political. >> got it rope to protect us and phone th...

Run the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee. you don't trust the judges on the fisa court. >> bill: okay. were you in a coma last week for the irs testimony? were new a coma last week for the irs it testimony? you have federal officials -- >> -- you know, that has nothing to do with this. nothing. >> bill: of course it does. you had federal officials working for the irs being paid by the federal government who are illegally mining information about conservative and conservative groups and giving it to their opponents. that's a crime. you are telling me i should trus...

Play it or water it down by bringing in irs. that's. >> bill: juan, you must be sniffing glue, juan. >> oh, stop. >> bill: if you can't see how the irs abuse of mining information that's supposed to be private and giving it out illegally to other people. >> it's wrong. >> bill: come on. >> it doesn't. it doesn't tie in. >> bill: all right, mary katharine, do you think it ties in? >> yeah, i this at this ties in. one thing i would say is that the 11% approval rating of congress might suggest that many people might not trust their oversight for all of this information. >> bill: it's not oversigh...

Play it or water it down by bringing in irs. that's. >> bill: juan, you must be sniffing glue, juan. >> oh, stop. >> bill: if you can't see how the irs abuse of mining information that's supposed to be private and giving it out illegally to other people. >> it's wrong. >> bill: come on. >> it doesn't. it doesn't tie in. >> bill: all right, mary katharine, do you think it ties in? >> yeah, i this at this ties in. one thing i would say is that the 11% approval rating of congress might suggest that many people might not trust their oversight for all of this information. >> bill: it's not oversigh...