The united states even in our home state of minnesota, they're fighting over a nickel mine and the environmental left is really against this mining so you're going to live the green dream when you can't get a mining permit? pete: that's a great point. you mentioned how far you drive to make up the cost. if you want to level out emissions and say there's a benefit, how far do you have to drive? >> well, the estimates vary here wildly but on the low end, you've probably got to drive the ev about 20,000 miles just to start to see the green benefit of it because you've got to work off that manufac...