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Regime change? they are going to have to come inside this city. that's when it could get bad. >> pete: you mention the panic on the ground people fleeing trying to get gas and going to atms. there is a decision the government of ukraine had to make. full on preparation because a war is imminent or trying to keep the population calm believing that diplomacy or just a quote, minor incursion would be all that it is. do you think they managed that balance correctly or did they not go far enough in preparing the people for the reality that vladimir putin had envisioned all the way to kyiv? >> i thi...

Table moment," but if "putin decides to escalate, so will we." but what does that mean? if putin does not care about sanctions, and what's the next step? will we provide aid to any insurgency? i will also point out that the foreign minister of ukraine pointed out that the "minor incursion" point president biden made a couple of months ago was not helpful, because that has made europe a little bit less stable. i'm not saying that i know president putin. i had a chance to be in the room with him several times. he looks different to me, it feels like something has changed, even with the pandemic....

Report anchor. the biden administration. yesterday on call with reporters they said well this isn't really anything new because russia sent in donbas and luhansk. they are putting few more tankses. but principal deputy national security advisor said said this invasion let's call it for what it is. what do you think? did the white house sleep on it? >> i think they were starting to get heat this was falling what president said in that conference which minor incursion. and that caused a lot of agitation not only among republicans but among democrats and you had statements from people like senato...

I want to go back to something on january 19th. that our president said. and so i think what you are going to see is that russia will be held accountable if it invades and it all depends on what it does. it is one thing if it is minor incursion. and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not to do, et cetera. he mines the united states and our nato partners. but if they actually do what they capable of doing with the forces on border it is going to be a disaster for russia if they go on and invoid. jason look at where we are now. almost exactly a month later. russia in eastern ukra...

Escalation and that's the best chance we have for some form of negotiated settlement. >> steve: 9:00 this morning about three hours from right now. the president of the united states is going to go into the situation room and talk to president xi of china. you know, china is playing a double game right now. they want russia to think they're on their side and russia to think they're on our side. they have changed their language a little bit and they're calling it a war instead of a situation or a special military operation. but what is -- what the president of the united states is going to do i...