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Tv expect to see entertainment and drama and not facts and findings. we saw a stark contrast today between a professional prosecutor and professional politicians. and now we have a choice to make. are we going to choose the facts or are we going to choose the drama? and i don't think any of that would have changed depending on the age of the prosecutor. >> josh, another way of putting some of this is the mueller report came out not attuned to the age of the internet. today's televised hearing was not quite attuned to the age of television. did mueller's refusal to declare that the president wa...

I don't see, contrary to congressman speier earlier here, i don't see any momentum toward impeachment. i think that thing jeremy bash said earlier today is probably closer to true. i think the momentum is the other direction. and i think really when the history of this is written, and i want to say something about something you said, which is really important. you said this thing about how nancy pelosi could call and say summer recess is over, this is a national emergency. >> we forget that's in her toolbox. >> it is in her toolbox. and you have her standing up at the end of the day saying the...

I don't see, contrary to congressman speier earlier here, i don't see any momentum toward impeachment. i think that thing jeremy bash said earlier today is probably closer to true. i think the momentum is the other direction. and i think really when the history of this is written, and i want to say something about something you said, which is really important. you said this thing about how nancy pelosi could call and say summer recess is over, this is a national emergency. >> we forget that's in her toolbox. >> it is in her toolbox. and you have her standing up at the end of the day saying the...

Would not be any different. the team's findings would not be any different if he were 62 or 52 or 75. that's the reality. but sadly, people who tune in to tv expect to see entertainment and drama and not facts and findings. we saw a stark contrast today between a professional prosecutor and professional politicians. and now we have a choice to make. are we going to choose the facts or are we going to choose the drama? and i don't think any of that would have changed depending on the age of the prosecutor. >> josh, another way of putting some of this is the mueller report came out not attuned t...

Politicians. he always hated going up to capitol hill to testify. but i think it was a huge missed opportunity to educate the public about the vast enormous stakes that he actually found in his report, and none of the powerful points in his report really came through today. >> joyce vance, because these are human beings we're talking about, i found myself thinking about his family and friends watching today and wondering what they made of it. this turns to what you made of it. do you think he did his own work justice? >> you know, this was a difficult day for a number of reasons, and mueller w...