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Missile program and is determined to maintain a robust missile capability. how do you read this? >> the reaction has been overrated. iran ever stopped testing missiles after the july 2015 attempt. and the agreement was agreed to in 2015. this is a fairly unsophisticated, inaccurate missile. i don't think it indicates iran, not a plea for negotiations, an act of defiance. i don't think we should read too much into it. shannon: the other signatories were out obviously, and to talk -- released from the sanctions. >> european patients is almost run out by seizing these british

First for a second. this is one where the south koreans are saying now that the north koreans launched two missiles, short range ballistic missiles that they believe went further than initially assessed. so that's going to be a concern. what kind of improvements in precision and guidance are the north koreans making in this missile? it's a missile that they believe and the u.s. does not disagree with them, may have russia origins. so again, the missiles that north korea fired may not have been particularly new. they may be of russian origin. but the question, of course, is what is kim jong-un ...

And this was launched inside iran, it landed in iran. so this test firing itself was not a threat. but, and it's a huge but, this is iran doing the very same thing, improving the range and guidance on its ballistic missile inventory. president trump has wanted these missiles included in any future restrictive negotiation with iran about the nuclear weapons program. these kinds of missiles, right now iran has not agreed to any of that. and this again, much like north korea, a message from tehran we have this missile capability, we're launching and testing it and we're doing what we can to impro...

Negotiation table something in exchange for easing of sanctions, which is what north koreans want. >> ambassador sherman, you made the point online there being a difference between theatrics, which you say this might be, if he meets kim jong-un at the border itself, and real denuclearization and some real policy. have we not had any progress done with north korea? >> not particularly. the president always says that north korea has stopped testing and it's true, they haven't done a nuclear test, but they have done a missile test, shorter range than a long-range ballistic missile, but the most c...

Capability of doing this. even if it wasn't the iranian revolutionary guard corps soldiers, it would be a militia, for instance, they energize. we see that everywhere, too. the idea, and i have seen this on conspiracy theories already, that the united states instigated is, is you have a typical conspiracy theory crowd, but this is pretty cut and dry. >> on how to respond, i saw you say yesterday if push comes to shove, you said the u.s. navy would push, shove, stomp, and destroy them in a heartbeat. what -- where is that line, though? is that this? >> it's something we're going to have to dete...