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If anything if he does wind up being convicted here this defense could be a mitigating factor in sentencing. and i'd be very surprised if he serves the full 50 years that he could be sentenced to. jon: nobody is saying that he necessarily deserves 50 years, but a lot of this is statements, faith, were pretty incriminating in those phone calls, and the fact that he, you know, is not necessarily showing a lot of sympathy for the victim, i mean teenagers get into all kinds of texting worsts but they don't result in a 15-year-old kid stomping the head of a young girl. >> exactly. a lot of people a...

Showed again to wall street what a pro-business democrat sounds like. talking about extending the bush tax cuts. talking more positively about romney's business record. it's why bill clinton did so well with a lot of the financial donors and it's one of the reasons it was easier back then for the financial sector to hedge their bet. but if you go back to 2008, a lot of these donors were big, big obama supporters. they believed in him, believed he would govern more like bill clinton when it came to the economy. to their minds he has not. that's where the revolt is coming. you hear it all the ti...

That case. you can't hang the bush tax cuts around his neck, that will be one mitigating factor. the big advantage of pawlenty and portman, both of them are quite boring and they make mitt romney look scintillating by comparison. >> thank you for joining us tonight. coming up, karl rove would like to rewrite what he told george w. bush about dick cheney and one of the presidential candidates would like to rewrite his stupidest moment of his campaign. and if you're a "new york times" reader, back when anna -- what does anna think about this war on women and the new political debate over a sub...

Running up these massive deficits for president bush and you get to go right back to that old, you know, speech about the bush deficits. >> it's true, that's a down side, there's no question. i believe it's true that rob portman was head of the omb for one year, maybe a year and a half in 2007. certainly joe biden will make that case. you can't hang the bush tax cuts around his neck, that will be one mitigating factor. the big advantage of pawlenty and portman, both of them are quite boring and they make mitt romney look scintillating by comparison. >> thank you for joining us tonight. comin...

Will be a broader overview and look into the stress on the force. look, we're seen in military -- seeing in military courts soldiers, air men, air marines, are coming back from multiple deployments, the incidence of pstd is on the rise, there's no doubt about it. i see it as a military judge in the reserves. but the question is not whether they have ptsd but it's whether he is legally competent to stand trial and if he is, and the trial proceeds, what impact that may have not only on the degree of culpability, one, that's in the findings sections, but then if there's a guilty finding, the degr...