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You think about going back to another thing in that time frame, the white house brought bill daly in as chief of staff. everyone assumed part of the reason was to put him on the sunday shows because he was a big washington veteran and he had a lot of television skills. they didn't trust him on the television, on the sunday shows either. so this notion of very tight circle around obama and not trusting, not only not trusting cabinet secretaries but not trusting people not in the tightest inner circle around the president and the president himself has been an engrained part of this white house s...

You think about going back to another thing in that time frame, the white house brought bill daly. assuming they would put him on the sunday shows because he was a big washington veteran. they didn't trust him on the television, on the sunday shows either. so this notion of very tight circle around obama and not trusting, not only not trusting cabinet secretaries but not trusting people not in the tightest inner circle around the president and the president himself has been an engrained part of this white house since day one. >> that was the secret success of the mo udahl campaign. i'm being s...