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The department ofjustice but as far as i can tell they are working their way up like in a mob prosecution where you start with the foot soldiers until you get all the way to the top to the godfather. you know? really? i wouldn't give up any hope on them figuring out all of the conspiracies that were involved in is very complex set of activities that were designed to overthrowjoe biden�*s majority in the electoral cartilage and foresee election into a so—called contingent election under the 12th amendment. that was a whole purpose because our constitution says if nobody has a majority in th...

Enforcement, 5 in the federal government. i never asked a witness except for maybe somebody involved in the mob, in a mob prosecution, to bring in a witness through that type of security, that type of secrecy. >> you're suggesting at least in your case, your client, he found it intimidating. do you think it was designed to intimidate? >> perhaps. he certainly felt it was intimidating. what unfolded beyond that was equally intimidating. you go in a room and you're talking to individuals you know that if you slip up, they have that 1001 capability, the ability to check you. >> you think that was...

General's -- the u.s. -- -- >> to be attorney general, highest lawyer in the land, took the position that the president can be the prosecutor in chief which they would use then as a defense saying we didn't intend that we're just directing prosecutions >> douglas, one of the things that the speaker pelosi in her lengthy statement about the indictment of roger stone, it was about the kind of people that donald trump surrounds himself with, and you know, you've already seen roger stone threatening to, you know, harm someone's dog, calling them a rat, donald trump using language you're a rat of a...

Deals as a consultant. we don't know if there was any connection here to at the time donald trump. what does this tell you about where we are? jane? >> i like michael analogy to the mob prosecution, it tells you that the circles are closing, that one person talks about the next person talks about the next person, and who is in the center of the circle, we will just see. but again, i don't want to get ahead of what's going on with -- >> agreed, because there have been no -- actually, there has nothing that we know of that suggests that donald trump directed michael flynn to do what he did or do...

Staffer. and making deals with people is a way to resolve their issues. and the goal is the truth. the goal isn't crushing people. if manafort did all these things wrong, i'm sorry, i'm not particularly sympathetic. let me just say one other thing to support what karl said. karl, i'm agreeing with you. a lot of what's going on here is manafort's bluster, that's my view. it's out there that he directed he didn't. but my point is mueller is meticulous, and he's doing a mob prosecution here, virkings within circles. and man fort, my guess is, has a lott to the explain and that's why he made this ...