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Answer after you ask the question, you won't be attune to whether or not they have dodged it. a lot of times people want to hear a yes or no answer, that is a moment when you as mod rarts rarts, that is the role, not there to interview, you are there to moderate and keep it on track and hold people to the question and make sure that the viewers and the voters, most important part of the evening are getting an answer to the question. >> trey: you're a sports nut. i'm a sports nut. let's talk about referees, judges and umpires. we don't want them to play central role in a debate and we've seen d...

This also comes after, you know, the uproar about the protests, the national anthem protests and basketball players over in china and a number of racial issues that continue to be surfaced by this president. we are seeing this at the ballot box. if you're a republican right now looking into next year's mid-terms, you're probably a little worried about this. >> and you're worried about whether people are getting the real goods, the real facts on it because if they are it can turn off a lot of people, a lot of mod rarts. a lot of people regardless of what party they're affiliated with. liz is al...

They will need the situational awareness and cool and calm tonight. we're a minute and a half away from the top of the hour. inside the official moment of awkward silence, where the mod rarts are preparing, their backs to the audience. chris matthews down in st. louis. chris, your last thoughts. >> the characters, courtroom drama, may well be that donald trump will point the finger at the former president. point to juan ta broderick and say you ra p ped her. this could get very raw. you can say the same about kathleen, you groped her. paid paula jones a million dollars to settle a suit over se...

Party. that this was not inconsequential to you and i know we'll be talking to you after this event. to your viewers yourks may have seen two men approach the terror of the circle. by now, they are almost household names. we've seep them do this enough times. on the left is former clinton white house press secretary, mike mccurry and on the right, long time republican, hang on. oh. we're not going to list nn yet. frank farncough. >> what they're going to do here is have i they're going to lead the same sort soft standard set of rules they usually do. they'll likely go to the university preside...

And paste deal. >> has reeves priebus seen it yet. >> laura: i saw it. it was really boring. >> the hillary one. >> laura: you are smarter than that. >> not really. lure lawyer good good point, go to hanukkah. you can't blame priebus. >> yes, can i. >> laura: last debate we had mod rarts clearly doing the midding of the democrats. >> bidding because that was the case in your view that means therefore cnn when they do a hillary documentary will do it in keeping with whatever candy crowley things because you don't like the way she run the debate. that's a running long jump. >> laura: can you chi...