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Because the american people would kind of know that it's in the courts and proceeding at a molasses pace while the trump presidency continued. my question to you is does it look to you now as of tonight that that is indeed where we're headed, that maybe a subpoena, maybe that becomes a test case. get it through the u.s. court of appeals. get it before the supreme court perhaps before we're all done. >> it could possibly play out in that kind of a long, you know, dreary legal proceeding. but one fact we should not lose sight of here is this is a tough choice for the president and his legal team...

May. back in march, this is before the cohen raids. the president's talking with his attorney, ty cobb. the president is saying publicly he wants to do the interview with mueller. ty cobb is encouraging of the interview with mueller. john dowd is not. he then resigns amid those discussions. then the cohen raid comes, and the president moves away in april from being game, at least publicly, to doing the mueller interview, to saying, wait a minute because of all the things you just mentioned. the cohen raid raised a lot of red flags inside the white house. what does the federal government have i...

Tonight say a legal battle wouldn't shall the worst thing because the american people would kind of know that it's in the courts and proceeding at a molasses pace while the trump presidency continued. my question to you is does it look to you now as of tonight that that is indeed where we're headed, that maybe a subpoena, maybe that becomes a test case. get it through the u.s. court of appeals. get it before the supreme court perhaps before we're all done. >> it could possibly play out in that kind of a long, you know, dreary legal proceeding. but one fact we should not lose sight of here is t...