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Liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? back to "hardball." now to the "sideshow." notes, what notes? that's what gop congressman steve king's aides are saying after a debate earlier this week. why? keep a close eye on the iowa congressman's hands in this clip from the no notes allowed debate. >> i write bills, i introduce bills, i turn them into amendments and i succeed in getting those amendments passed. in fact, by a measurement of congressmen jeff flake -- >> well, pause, no mistaking it, he's got writing on his hands. there it is. his spokesman's response, somethin...

That ryan has in his own exact plan. >> now, aarp endorsed it, do you really think they'd be out in the business of wrecking medicare? do you think all the old geezers like me would still pay their aarp dues if they thought thea arp was wrecking medicare? i mean, come on, give me a break here. but he's got to stand up there with a straight face and say all that stuff. >> some geezer. nobody breaks it down better than big bill. we'll be right back. common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop mor...

Paul ryan was at it, but this was biden's debate. he sort of controlled the debate for better or for worse at times for him. that was important. and joe, i'm with you on this. that's a big deal to the obama campaign. they couldn't go down 0-2, to be cliche about this in baseball, they couldn't afford to lose game two of this four-game series of debates. and they didn't lose game two. we can argue, was it a full win for biden? did he give away some points in this because of style because he was a little too amped up on red bull for the first 45 minutes of this thing? maybe. but they certainly -...

Alex, real quickly, we have a supreme court openings perhaps in the next presidency. it's just a matter of mortality. there are older members of the court, about four of them now in their mid-70s, some in bad health. there's a good chance the next president will make a couple appointments, maybe even three or four. and so the yes of roe v. wade is not settled in this country. it's a bit fragile at this point. >> and the republicans take -- the republican ticket takes a states rights position on this which allows them to have their cake and eat it, too. let's not forget, the anti-choice people,...