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Trump? >> he says a limited role, andrew. are you buying that? >> no. i think that he's going to kind of move himself into the white house and he's kind of like the flavor of the moment for trump and trump's going to listen to him. the question is is giuliani going to play this cool fixer or is he going to play to more of what his type is, which is as an attack dog. he was once called a human hand grenade by the "new york times." that's his natural posture. is he going to pour gas on the fire? >> what do you think he does with trump? the former or the latter? >> i don't think that giuliani is ...