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To try to do. >> ironically it's like pro-life and pro-gun. very ironic. it's a generalized statement. >> exactly. interestingly, originally joe biden was not going to report, was not going to make his case to the president until after the state of the union, until after -- excuse me, until after the inaugural address. i think they're moving up the schedule of this because i think the president is, in fact, going to feature it in -- he's going to mention it in the inaugural -- >> is this legacy material? >> this is legacy material. also, it's not money material. in other words, we're broke as ...

Was not going to make his case to the president until after the state of the union, until after -- excuse me, until after the inaugural address. i think they're moving up the schedule of this because i think the president is, in fact, going to feature it in -- he's going to mention it in the inaugural -- >> is this legacy material? >> this is legacy material. also, it's not money material. in other words, we're broke as a country. there's going to be a big fight over the debt. we're going to have another debt ceiling crisis and so forth. this is a cultural matter that he can deal with that is ...

Because they know it's a constitutional right. but if you're specific, then the equation changes, and that's what the vice president is going to try to do. >> ironically it's like pro-life and pro-gun. very ironic. it's a generalized statement. >> exactly. interestingly, originally joe biden was not going to report, was not going to make his case to the president until after the state of the union, until after -- excuse me, until after the inaugural address. i think they're moving up the schedule of this because i think the president is, in fact, going to feature it in -- he's going to mention...