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There was a situation in alabama. with roy moore and there was a real sense for democrats that you needed to keep the high moral ground. >> the times have changed now. >> not so much the times have changed, people just have realized that, first of all the idea of having a moral high ground kind of doesn't make sense in this climate. because of what you said. it doesn't make any difference what democrats do whether they were to ask him to resign or not, the republicans will behave exactly the same way. it will make no difference. >> do you think given what you have said, do you think in this cl...

Highest, highest, highest moral standard, character standard. and i -- you know, i think it's awful that there might be a supreme court justice with this cloud hanging over his head. it should be judge kavanaugh, in his interest, if he is so adamant and so convinced and he knows in his heart that he didn't do it. it should be him asking for his name to be cleared. if that doesn't happen, i hope dr. ford does testify because it's really the only next step if there is no fbi investigation for america to get to hear what happened and make a decision. >> i hear the logic of it. there's only one pr...

Anna, what's your answer? >> look, i think, i think judge kavanagh should ask the fbi for an investigation because i think it's as important for judge kavanagh to clear his name if this is not true, as it is for us to know if it's true or not. it is important for dr. ford. to me, the idea of having a supreme court justice that a large swath of the country thinks is morally unfit to be sitting on the supreme court, a lifetime appointment that does not stand for election, that has no term limits, that has no retirement age or no supreme court justice has ever been impeached, should have the high...

I think for me, the important point is gina and her qualifications to be the director of cia and i'm very hopeful she'll be confirmed, so if they want to use my endorsement as a way of helping that, fine. >> but john mccain is calling on senators to do opposite. so reject her and his reasoning is this. in his statement, he said h her refusal to acknowledge tortures immorality disqualified. you support haskell, but shouldn't she have answered that question? >> actually, i agree with the way she answered that question because what she avoided, which i think she had to, was retroactively setting ...

Interested in the question that senator warner"gykyy< asked you. we have a very legalistic answer to that question. k1u again, weree the right things to do? are they consistent with american values fundamentally? what do you believe? >> senator, i believe very strongly in american values and america being an example to the rest of the world. that is why i support the fact that we have chosen to hold ourselves to a stricter moral standard. >> but that's about congress and all of us. i want to know what you think. >> i think that we should hold ourselves to a stricter moral standard and i would ...