highest, highest, highest moral standard, character standard. and i -- you know, i think it's awful that there might be a supreme court justice with this cloud hanging over his head. it should be judge kavanaugh, in his interest, if he is so adamant and so convinced and he knows in his heart that he didn't do it. it should be him asking for his name to be cleared. if that doesn't happen, i hope dr. ford does testify because it's really the only next step if there is no fbi investigation for america to get to hear what happened and make a decision. >> i hear the logic of it. there's only one problem with that, steve cortez. it's not kavanaugh's call. the congress can't call for it. grassley can say there is not going to be one, it's not his call. it's the president's call. as we saw with george bush and the precedent. he can reopen the background