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It. because there are pros and cons to that as well. ambassador eisen you know the region well. what do you think the biden visit means for the solidarity of western allies? >> it's very important, anderson. the russian military hollowed out by corruption has shown that it doesn't have what it takes to win this war. the greatest threat is that the nato allies, the other western allies, and here in the united states morale will falter, that we won't stay the course. we know historically we've been successful when we do that. so this visit, the speech tomorrow will have the effect of stiffening ...

We know historically we have been successful when we do that. so this visit, this speech tomorrow will have the effect of stiffening our spines. we already see that, as you just highlighted that in what polls that -- softer, i am looking for that to go up. then of course it gives tremendous morale boost to ukrainians and our nato allies in the region. including the czechs, where i served. and those countries will be meeting with biden. so, it is too stiffen our spines above all. >> you know steve, investor eyes and makes the point that russian military has been -- that may be true but they can...

Said himself today as the two presidents as they were meeting, he said with this conversation, ukraine is one step closer to victory. that speaks to the effect, to this anticipated effect on morale. it has been a tough winter here, jim, and the fighting in the east is grim, andle is of the highest rates of the ukrainian casualties and still very high casualty rates as well, and people have been living in the cold without power, without running water, because of the ruthless campaign of russia targeting the infrastructure, and to see the president of the united states come on this unannounced t...

Over belarus. that's a fairly normal circumstance that happens pretty much on an almost daily basis here, but obviously takes on added significance when you have an announced visit from the president of the united states. and it was interest just to see, talking to ukrainians about their feelings about this visit. obviously, it had a big impact on the city. parts of it were shut down this morning for hours. there were traffic jams. the subways were very crowded with people trying to find alternative ways to get to work and to get out and about. but definitely, the predominant feeling from peop...

Thousands of kilometers and ocean, we are united by bravery and by love for freedom and our willingness to fight for it. so it has been very important for the people of ukraine to see american president on the presidents' day in kyiv and saying that our strategic fend nu -- friend number one, united states, is with us in this fight. >> what kind of morale boost does a visit from the president of the united states give the ukrainian people? how important is this? >> very important. after historic visit of president zelenskyy from bakhmut to washington, this has been yet another historic visit. ...