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We'll see. >> hans, tell me -- >> that's all i do is flub it. you still come back. it's amazing. >> what's the attitude over at the pentagon about general mattis coming in? is there concern about a general coming in or beloved guy? >> great deal of excitement. >> really. >> not just in the marine corps. talk to any of the services in the pentagon they're excited about mattis. it's going to be a 180 degree change. described by a general the other day before the mission it's always been about force levels, how many troops are you going to have here throughout the entire obama administration we s...

His size. >> true. >> that was former secretary of defense chuck hagel yesterday. >> ironicay his nickname in congress, the round mound of rebound. >> talking about the syrian civil war and its impact on president obama's legacy. joining us nbc news pentagon correspondent hans nickel. >> he's something very slippery about this guy. >> everybody was talking bad about this guy at the white house, said they were out to get him. >> i don't want to say more. there were multiple conspiracies taking place in multiple wings of the white house. >> more hans. welcome to "morning joe." >> my intellect ag...