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addressed the unprecedented indictment friday. >> we have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone. if applying those laws, collecting facts, that's what determines the outcome of an investigation. nothing more and nothing less. paul: joining me now is the former attorney general of the united states, michael mukasey. judge mukasey, good to see you. so you've read the indictment. how strong is it? >> well, if the facts set forth in there are provable, and a great deal of it indicates that they clearly are, it is very strong. a lot of the evidence comes from his own...

I think, more questionable. because, you know, saudi arabia was an ally of the u.s. in the middle east. we don't have many. ment -- and it would have been important to try to make that out. it was a big mistake that the saudis killed this guy and, you know, be, obviously, some outrage -- there should be some outrage and pushback against it. but i think picking a fight with saudi arabia and turning them into a high profile enemy was really a big mistake. paul: all right, thank you. when we come back, democrats sound the climate alarm as smoke from hundreds of decade january wildfires blanket th...

Shrugging it's shoulders. jessica, ed and tianna. that's their view. they could be wrong about this. but tianna. is there a middle ground that could save face for both parties? >> what trump proposed could be seen as a victory for both parties. i think democrats, they need to name their price. he's effectively issued a blank trump for them. all he cared about is $5.7 for border security. if nancy pelosi wants to say six years of protections for daca recipients instead of three or she could even start touting it actual amnesty that trump is so desperate at this point, but the fact that she won'...

A hopeful, i respect mattis tremendously and i don't know tillerson and i disagree with him more but i have respect for them. the nfc looks more questionable. it will be interesting to see, what do mattis and tillerson, how do they behave? what does the trump administration, does it look like trump with his advisers or policies being made by serious cabinet secretaries? >> bill kristol, thank you so much. the whole question of how to cover this new administration is now being raised. take a look at this moment from november 1981, the briefing room in the white house was renamed in honor of rea...

I don't know what bizarre world we are living in when i agree with everything that newt gingrich's campaign is saying. i think this is a healthy conversation to have not about capitalism but about the extremes we are allowed to go to. this legal? absolutely. is it necessarily moral. that's more questionable. >> bill: some cases it may not be, in other cases it is you expand the sports authority and something else goes down the drain. any impressions on that discussion? >> as far as newt gingrich is concerned he needs to start thinking about perhaps going more towards mitt romney's record as go...