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There for eight years. >> i think what's happened to romney is his brand. it's gone from boring to competent. quiet competency. there's a competency, whether it's the debates, his organization. people all along going mitt romney, mitt romney -- competency. and it's not a sexy word, but very appealing word. and i think that's what's coming across for him. and the second thing -- >> whether it's ad campaigns or presidential races, contrast is what matters the most. especially if you're taking on the incompetent. and you match the competency against what a lot of business people, a lot of former ...

Those loopholes and changing the tax code. >> you know, i think since he's made such an issue with this, i do hope he pays all of his secretaries' taxes. they've become tools in this conversation. >> i'm not saying this facetiously, you worked hard your whole life, sold your company, and made gobs and gobs of money. can you explain to people out there -- and i don't even understand this. can you explain how the super rich like warren buffett and others, can you explain of what so much of your business does is geared toward not paying the 35% tax rate that people who make $250,000 -- >> not all...

>> before longoria's ball cleared the fence, i was a broken old man. i did not sneak out over the left field fence -- i heard the crack. >> seriously. somehow this ties in. >> it does. >> prohibition -- >> here's what it is. >> drinking. >> the more things change -- that's right. it's a drama about drinking. >> we don't need a transition. three-part 5 1/2-hour series about the rise and fall of prohibition. >> you're so excited about -- i've never seen you so excited a about anything. why? >> there's nothing new under the sun. this is the story of single issue political campaigns, wedge issue c...

Unconstitutional. hold on, mika -- >> yeah. >> i want to apologize because he has been consistent on this issue, and it hurts him -- because that has shown political courage. and all too often, political courage is lacking. >> until now because actually yesterday in an interview with news max tv, perry apologized for that comment. >> but for what? >> and walked back from his stance on providing instate tuition. >> what? >> children of illegal immigrants. >> what? he's backing down. >> i probably chose a poor word to explain that. for people who don't want their state to be giving tuition to il...

There are issues there. and frankly, and i hate to be the one to say it, as much as mitt romney went through southern primaries in 2008, being dogged by the mormon issue, newt gingrich is going to be dogged by the marriage issue as well. >> and you don't hear too many politicians quoting kamu? >> as you know, he's come down. for somebody to sit around and talk to, he can be a very charming man. sometimes if the generals say he has a tendency to outrun the supply lines. but as you can tell from the interview, it was a provocative interview, congratulations on getting him to talk to you. and i j...