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Overcome his problems. this is real lay very in-your-face interview at the very time secretary kerry was being criticized by the opposition groups for being too pro military. seems as though the u.s. is either muddling the message or maybe burns is trying to straighten this all out right now. >> i think the problem is you have two sides and a pretty intractable situation right now, two sides who believe they are absolutely right. you have morsi supporters who say, this was egypt's first freely elected president and those who support the interim government, that's run now by the military, who s...

Be brought into the political process so their supporters feel at least they're'll have some kind of say going forward. sounds like a tricky balancing act. but do you agree that is essential? >> i think it's essential. what the military said they're going to bring in all of the components of the political spectrum, they will be talking to the religious authorities, and they would like to brung the muslim brotherhood in. i doubt if you can bring morsi back. i don't think the would could part of this depends on what the brotherhood says it is willing to do. in the first instance, morsi, the army...

He's here for a couple of summits. gaza has overshadowed all of that. he was up late. he was up with morsi and netanyahu. morsi is the conduit into hamas. the united states doesn't have any direct conversations with hamas. the conduit is morsi. gets off the phone with netanyahu. decides to call morsi back. after that, the president and the secretary huddle. time for shuttle diplomacy. so the decision to send her there and it comes with some risk. the united states putting that much skin in the game getting that involved if suddenly nothing is prevented and in 72 hours a ground invasion begins,...