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Penalties for some of these Business Owners that are struggling in this economy. But my inclination would be to reduce it to ten days given the circumstances that i have heard. Do you have a motion, commissioner . Yes, i would move to grant the appeal and reduce the suspension to ten days. Call the role, please . We have a motion from commission to reduce to ten. Hwang, aye. No. Three to one and the suspension is reduced to ten days, thank you. So item number eight was dismissed and will not be heard this evening and we can move on to item number nine which is appeal 12136. Second street, merc...

Okay. Thank you. I had a question, your neighbor indicated that the noise goes on until the music goes on until 1 in the morning. Do you want to comment on that . Sure. And this is an area that i think we are planning to make some changes. The way that we do our programming, is that on weekend nights, for most of the year, we start our performances at 8 00 and they go until ten. Later, in the summer months we change that in 9 to 11 because of the light of day and it is bright out and the other exception is the event called the map, the mission arts and performance project which is a neighborho...

Respond if it takes more than 15 minutes to provide the information. Okay. But this is for oral information. Not a record. Thats right. As i mentioned earlier sunshine ordinance does not require the city to create any records. Okay. I understand. If i let him speak am i opening up Public Comment. You can reopen Public Comment. I maybe able to help you on this. No. I understand. It was meant to be a joke. Its not nearly as funny a the 1 0 30. Just to refer you to section 20 b Public Information is defined there as the content of public records in public records act whether provided in documenta...

Questions orally. Thats right. Or make someone available to answer the questions simply. I would note that while we are on the this issue, mr. Lazar is not was not charged by the sunshine force with a violation of that section of the ordinance. He was charged with the failure to respond to a public records question, i believe. No. Sorry. I meant that 10 30. Well, that looks like hes met his burden on that. What he, mr. Lazar has met his burden . Im sorry. He has not met his burden on 67. 22 b. Both. 21 and 22. 67. 21 b appears to refer to a custodian of the public record. And i think thats a d...

You have now come up from the back row twice. I have one other question for you. If the answer to the question was there hasnt been any communication, why not just tell that to mr. Clark . Why go through all of this . Im honestly cant answer that. I would tell him, i dont know. I dont remember that. I believe i did say what was happening in terms of that lack of compromise on the part of the at the committee meeting. But i just right now i have no recollection. Im not going to deny it. I said do what you have to do. Okay . Thanks. Are there any views with respect to the 67. 34 willful violatio...