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>> governor, let's look ahead to the head-to-head match-ups. biden beats trump by 14 points, sanders beats him by 8, warren by 6. senator kamala harris runs about even with the president. this is 42/40. so, i don't know, what do these numbers -- do to this conversation about electability? if i can get my mouth working. >> it's so hard to know what electability means because it means different things to different people, but i will say, i mean, joe biden's lead has been solid, been secure. there is this conversation i think over who's going to be the second person. this poll is kind of interest...

With everything i believe in. i need to get 50.1% or more. i'm appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people. >> but i need to get 50.1%. which in many ways is i'll accept whatever they want to say, whatever they want to do. and even implicitly go along with the president not being american because i have to get my 50.1%. >> this has been a constant problem for mitt romney. sort of it's his weakness that he feels like he can't stand up to the right wing of his party. that's why he's constantly playing the donald trump card and standing with that man. i think this is something slightly ...