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You contrast that with what we saw last night. a pretty big crowd showed up. clearly this movement didn't lose steam from trump's mishandling of the pandemic or the election. what do you say? >> i hope he's right. there is a lot of people that i've talked to that are mad at me for just telling the truth, which used to be a pretty basic low bar. that really truly believe that donald trump was elected president again. what you saw yesterday was a recycling of all his old talking points. it was a rally of a loser president. he's the first president to lose re-election in decades. and i don't know...

And what you could have argued was the cogency of anita hill during that testimony, the public approval for thomas went up afterwards when he was, of course, confirmed. how did you understand that at the time? >> i didn't understand it at the time, and i'm not sure i understand it now is the honest answer. but once we go through the catharsis of this kind of public display, people able to make up their mind, i think what happened was the public attitude was, look, he's on the supreme court. we hold the supreme court in very high esteem. it's very important as part of our system with checks and...

Up afterwards when he was, of course, confirmed. how did you understand that at the time? >> i didn't understand it at the time, and i'm not sure i understand it now is the honest answer. but once we go through the catharsis of this kind of public display, people able to make up their mind, i think what happened was the public attitude was, look, he's on the supreme court. we hold the supreme court in very high esteem. it's very important as part of our system with checks and balances. give the guy the benefit of the doubt, and let's move on to the next thing. chris, we're not just in a differ...

I don't think jeff bennett can hear. we have an interesting -- >> i can can hear you just fine, chris. >> can you hear? >> yes. i'm here. president trump isn't here. he's spending the weekend at his private south florida mar-a-lago estate. this has turned into a second gathering area as the rally breaks up. we're joined by a student at george washington university here in the city. dana, tell me, why was it important for you to add your voice to this movement here? >> so i work with an internship through the american friend service committee. i go and work with students in anacostia high schoo...

You know, for some people it's the mass shootings that happen and other students it's one murder, one day to the next day. and i think what was great about today was that these young people made the intersection. they connected the everyday street violence and gun violence to what is happening -- happened in their schools. >> i was shocked by -- i'm sure you are, by that number. 5,000 young people killed in one city in this country, chicago. 20,000 cities. >> it was powerful. >> 5,000 dead people. >> 1600 -- i'm sorry. 16,000 wounded in one city. >> and 96 people every single day lose their li...