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At a fundraiser in california the other day. i did 83 events for hillary, and what happened was you got sucked into the trap of the stuff trump was laying. he wants you in a mud fight. when you respond to that, it brings you back down into that. the question is, and this is the challenge for any democrat, where is the sweet spot of pushing back but not getting caught in the mess? >> and that's exactly the challenge for democratic candidates. because not just former vice president saying when us reporters ask about the questions with the son, he's not the only democratic candidate who is saying...

Their goal, according to the mueller report, was to have americans debating among themselves, tear each other apart. and the media has been a part of that by asking these questions in the wake of the mueller report and not moving on when it comes to the fax of the case. remember, when condoleezza rice also called out adam schiff and said it's time to wrap up the investigation. we have got to move on as a country. there are other things to worry about. brian: if you read her book, it talks about our recent history the end of the cold war. moving from here where the russian's approach to america...

Are coming down to the wire. that he's anticipating reports about to be filed and he needs to be there too insulate the team, and insulate mueller from what is probably going to be a mud fight between the justice department and congress. >> your sense of what a heat shield is in that position? >> look, rosenstein has taken a lot of criticism. at the end of the day, he's a patriot, i think, and he's someone who believes in the integrity of the department of justice and the rule of law, and i think a heat shield probably means trying to protect that independence from what they may fear as furthe...

Under the busby everybody. if anything goes down with anything around me, i'm not sticking around to be the heat shield. >> rosenstein had contemplated tape recording the president. in my mind for good reason, because donald trump has weaponized lying, if you're a prosecutor how do you deal with that, in the environment that existed after that happened, rosenstein seemed like a crash test dummy. you wondered how much longer he can take a beating in the press. he seemed like he had a foot out the door at least. whitaker was in there at that time. whitaker has since left. to me, this suggests th...

Got now over the highest court is a mud fight which brings the court and the country down and it's just another example of the way partisanship, the parties and ideologies have taken over and the best interest of the country are not served. maria: i don't think this is what the american people want particularly going into the mid-term elections. they want to see progress. if the democrats take control and flip the house nothing will get done in the next two years. nothing. >> well that's the challenge. maria: they will stop everything the president wants to do. >> absolutely and when i tariff ...