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Somebody caught in the middle of it, and that does not excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, we have talked about abuse of power and bribery when we started, we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with a high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think that there is more than enough. As i mentioned in my statement, i just really underscore this. The third article of impeachment, approved ...

Was the president ordering his then white house counsel dom began to fire the special counsel rather than to have the special counsel fired in order to thwart the investigation of the president, correct? >> that is correct. >> the second was a president ordering mr. mcgann to create a false written record denying that the president had ordered him to have mr. mueller remove. >> that is correct. >> you also point to the meeting of the president with his former campaign manager corey lewandowski, in order to get him to take steps to have the investigation curtailed, right? >> yes, sir, i did. >>...