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Liabilities. If youre doing something that the original tagger, the vandal, lets say, did, and now youre using volunteers to paint it out, what has anybody considered the possibility if you dont have police accompaniment to the rehabilitation of that wall, that its very possible that the person that tagged it is not going to want to see it painted out and might behave in an adversarial situation, perhaps danger . Inclusive of the fact that on the other side of the coin is lets say youve got volunteers, youve got kids that work in on the wall. And a possibility of this Hazardous Material affect...

Because that pigment on the surface was taken, but the design is still there. A good example is van ness and ellis not too far from here. And there is a corner building, beautiful onestory brick building. And you see shadow over shadow over shadow. I think its to me, its almost like the vandals are laughing at us. Larry, did you want to respond to that . Yeah. So, we photograph all the tags and the inspectors go out and look at them. If the actual tack has been removed, then the graffiti is considered removed. The fact that the ghosting stays there, it becomes a very difficult thing at what le...

Would be where i would want to be. If they showed they made the effort to remove it, unless its extremely bad, i think theyre doing their Due Diligence to try and remove the graffiti. All right, thank you. Do you want to is that one red or is that because there was red and it was asked by the same person. It was red and then asked by the same person. You know what, i can see a bunch of hands up here. Iv see this guy back here with his hand up a couple a half hour now. If im going to be honest about it. So, were going to have him ask your question. Yeah, this is to dpw, but how do you cite your...

In our graffiti index, just as i mentioned before so we are examining the observations providing a numerical observation of the number of hectares in each area. In our hot spot we are fieplding there is more graffiti in the hot spots compared to the random areas. So that tells us we can rely on the calls coming in i dont think i have any other maps so i can turn that up so were not sitting in the dark. Basically what were finding then is it is making a difference looking at the hot spots compared to the random sampling. So within a given year we should be able to look at trends coming in from ...

Requires money and it requires attention from the officials, not just from covering graffiti . Is there an answer . Can you give me some sort of whats a good direction . [speaker not understood]. [speaker not understood]. Basically the task force, theyll put together and try to convince the citizens something is happening, then it will go away. Its no longer a political issue. What turned the corner for us, we had a mayor go out during one of our zero tolerance on blight mayor. She went out on a clean up day. The people from the Better Business bureau went with they are and started dragging he...