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Be ripping up the script and giving a powerful speech. salient political points. the country is very much united, and i think the country may have been lulled into and disinformed along the way about putin. he is what john mccain said he was, a short, murderous thug, and he's now at war with a democracy in europe. talk about the opportunity for president biden. >> this is an opportunity that comes along very rarely in presidential politics, in any political setting, and that is, there is unity. and what did joe biden run on? he ran on unifying the country and getting over the illness that was ...

International standards of what we believe is normal behavior, but nonetheless, he has been warning us for years that this is exactly what he intended to do and this is not just that he woke up on a wednesday and decided to invade ukraine and during the obama and biden administration, he invaded a portion of ukraine from crimea. so this has been an evolution, he wants to re-establish the territory of the soviet union and ukraine is a part of that. ? right. he has been a brutal, murderous thug, dictator for many, many years, right? >> all those things. >> right now, given what's going on in ukr...

Gotten from probably anybody else. i think what trump wants -- let's put aside what he may not want out, and that's a big favor. i think that trump wants to -- he's a contrarian. he wants to do -- if the whole world is going this way, i'm going that way. >> is that it, or is he paying back a debt? >> i think he's -- oh, i don't think donald trump does anything that he does not get something out of. >> right. >> so it's more than just his contrarian nature. that's where i'm starting. he has got to see a tangible win for him, and that means putin probably has some things on donald trump that don...

Rather than g7. >> he already got that, right. >> he already picked up a lot more than he would have ever gotten from probably anybody else. i think what trump wants -- let's put aside what he may not want out, and that's a big favor. i think that trump wants -- it was a contrarian. he wants to do -- if the whole world is going this way i'm going that way. >> is that it or is he paying back a debt? >> he's -- i don't think donald trump does anything that he does not get something out of. it's more than just his contrarian nature. that's where i'm starting. he has to see a tangible win for him....

Exploring, you know, what are my options, where could i go, what could i do, and we would encourage that. >> the delicious part -- the delicious part is the end. and we would encourage that. >> we would. that's sort of the understatement of the year and tallas nation that he is somewhat unpredictable, ie, crazy. >> the this is the secretary of state so she's being diplomatic. >> she is, but of course we would encourage that. we would be very happy for gadhafi to leave. this entire mission really is -- from the united states' point of view cannot be judged a success unless gadhafi's gone. i mea...