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Senate to do impartial justice under the constitution and the law, to me it means that we have to take that step back from being hand in glove with the defense. and so i heard what leader mcconnell had said, i happened to think that that has further confused the process. murkows >> murkowski is one of several wild cards in the senate. she stressed she takes her role as an impeachment juror seriously. >> i need to be able to sit back and look at both sides of this, both what the house managers will present and what the white house managers will present. i need to do that. that's what i am going...

Reelected. i can write an op-ed, there's opinion leaders and other conservatives who can opine and urge republicans to do the right thing, as hopeless as that may be. if jeff flake were still in the senate, if he fought to keep that seat, then maybe you could have a coalition of republicans, maybe a mitch mcconnell, maybe murkows murkowski, maybe jeff flake, get three or four of them together, team up with some moderate centrist democrats and demand that the senate hear witnesses. they can go to mitch mcconnell and say you have to do this or you don't have 51 votes. jeff flake can write the op...

Until any such presumption. in fact, under the rules of evidence, if they were applicable. everything he says is presumed to be false and falsely exonerateing. >> thank you for starting our discussion tonight. when we come back from this break, if you think that the united states senate did not serve the majority of the people today, you are right. and that is what the senate does all too frequently. and later, two women who traveled all the way to alaska to try to be heard by senator lisa murkowski, they were definitely heard by senator m murkows murkowski. welcome to the xfinity store!

Note here regarding senator murkows murkowski. apparently she just spoke outside the senate chamber after voting no on cloture. she called cloture, quote a mistake. then she went on to say we'll see what happens tomorrow. she also said she's not planning on talking to mansion unless he asks. what does that tell you, garrett? >> reporter: it tells me a couple of things. murkowski has been taking this very seriously. she met for hours behind closed doors with a group of women down from alaska including a bunch of sexual assault survivors, who i spoke to afterwards. they described this very emoti...

That's how i have to vote, to end of the day, is with my conscious, i could not conclude that he is the right person for the court at this time. and this has been agonizing for me with this decision. it's as hard a choice probably as close a call as any that i can ever remember. and i hope, i hope and i pray that we don't find ourselves again. >> ed: republican senator lisa murkows murkowski. she made a little news that she doesn't believe that judge kavanaugh will overturn roe v. wade. she said she cannot get to the court. don't miss special coverage of brett kavanaugh's confirmation. i'll jo...